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What type of investment are you looking at to meet your expansion targets here?
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Absolutely 100%. Even the success of the G20 Summit is a testament to that. India has established itself on the world stage in such a profound way. It's in a unique phase that a lot of our peers in the US are trying to get in a very significant way.
I wanted to talk about some of your products. Theres a big push in logistics here. A lot of physical infrastructure could get created. How are you gearing up your products ?
What’s nice about our offering is that once countries urbanise more, we are part of that solution. So whether it’s our chillers or air conditioning systems for warehouses, it goes much beyond that. It gets into data centers, it gets into chip manufacturing, it gets into urbanization. India is going through massive urbanization over the next decade - one Chicago being built every year for the next decade. That is right in our wheelhouse.
An important phenomenon is that India’s GDP per capita will double over the next seven years or so between now and 2030. The demand for air conditioning for both commercial and residential applications is going to increase exponentially. So today only 8% of homes have air conditioning in places like the US it’s 90%. What happens then is that building contribute 40% of carbon emissions and 40% of that is from air conditioning systems. So, we have to facilitate that demand but we have to do it in a way that is friendly to the environment. So, we have innovative solutions to facilitate that transition.
Is AI playing a role in your industry?
Significantly. We were in the middle of AI before it became such a household terminology. For example the business we do in Bangalore under EcoEnergy. We will install a digital platform for a customer who has multiple sites and we will use the data that comes out of those buildings to create more energy-efficient solutions for those customers. We actually provide guarantees around looking at trends and looking at controls over their HVAC systems to make sure that we use optimization of when they use the equipment, how hard they run their equipment at different times of the day, to make sure we can get them energy efficient savings and sustainability savings.
General feel on the economic outlook? Are you optimistic, cautious, where are you veering?
I think we try to be pragmatic. I think the growth will not be what it was in recent years. But we are clear-eyed about that -- we also try to be in industries that can grow significantly despite GDP’s growing at low single-digit levels. For example the Viessmann acquisition that we did in Europe (Carrier has announced a deal to buy Germany’s Viessmann for $13.7 billion). Europe is growing through relatively low growth. It has been more resilient than we thought going into 2023 but there’s no question that the growth rates will come down. In a place like the US and Europe there will be lower growth this year and next year than perhaps in prior years. But what’s also happening is a massive transition from fossil fuel to electrification. Households will migrate from using fossil fuel for heating to using electric-powered heat pumps. That will drive our industry in Europe. And that’s one of the reasons we did the acquisition there. We are fairly clear-eyed and pragmatic about growth rates by country and globally we do think there’s going to be some pressure in certain countries as we go into 2024 but we also think we can grow significantly. Our financial algorithm is to grow at 8% a year and we feel confident that on a steady-state basis that’s the kind of growth rates we will see as a business.